Comments on: Re-discovering Klavarskribo

By: Evan

Evan — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:08:04 +0000

Jeanne, thanks for posting the link to the Klavar Music Foundation. I probably should have done that earlier.

Yes, I’d love to hear more of your thoughts about the video game and whatever input you might have.

By: Jeanne Mirck

Jeanne Mirck — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:19:23 +0000

Information on Klavarskribo in english: http://www.klavarmusic.org

By: Jeanne Mirck

Jeanne Mirck — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:14:50 +0000

I received your emails via MNMA and am now studying the contents of your blog.
I may have some very interesting hints for your video-game.
I am a convinced Klavar fan and promoter since my conversion to it at age 17, now 60 years ago. I made books and games for french children and teach many adults.
Please give me time to study all your ideas.
It might be very interesting if we could meet!!
Jean

By: Evan

Evan — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:41:35 +0000

Fons and Johan,

Thank you both for the links. I’ve spent some time on those sites, but I didn’t get very far, because I couldn’t find much information in English (and I haven’t learned Dutch yet). I did find this page: http://www.klavarvereniging.nl/nl/taalversies.lp?ID=1000

But that’s the only information in English that I could find.

I will keep digging to see what else I can find. I did download some of the PDF files from http://klavarpianist.nl, but I’m still hungry for more!

By: Johan van Kooten

Johan van Kooten — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:45:56 +0000

In addition to Fons Doomen’s reaction: free Klavarskribo sheet music is available in pdf-format at http://www.klavarpianist.nl and http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/klavarpianofiles/
After registration the files can be freely downloaded.

By: Fons Doomen

Fons Doomen — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:07:12 +0000

Antother member of the board of Klavar Vereniging Nederland pointed out this site to me. In fact the invention of Dutch Cor Pot in 1931 is still much vived, e.g. in the Netherlands 25 % of the organists in protestant churches use it.
All information on Klavarskribo (indeed a word in Esperanto, with two K) can be found in several languages (Dutch, English, French, German and Esperanto) on the website of Klavar Vereniging Nederland, http://www.klavarvereniging.nl. Information on published sheet music and courses is to be found in the site of Klavarskribo Foundation, the remains of the once very big Institute founded by Cor Pot: http://www.klavarskribo.nl
Fons Doomen

By: Evan

Evan — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:47:30 +0000

Russell, thanks for the link to keyPlay. It looks very interesting. Kind of a hybrid approach to notation, or an incremental reform. This may hit the sweet spot for people who have traditional notation hard-wired into their heads (especially the rhythmic symbols) but who still have trouble finding the right keys to play. I will keep my eyes on it and perhaps review it more closely at some point.

By: Evan

Evan — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:42:28 +0000

I wouldn’t assume that Klavar notation is limited to keyboard instruments. It just happens to map physically very closely to the piano. Traditional notation doesn’t map physically to any instrument, but does that make it unusable for every instrument?

According to the rules-with-no-exceptions of Esperanto, you’d always use the same letter for the same sound. So “Klavarskribo” is correct and “Klavarscribo” is incorrect. The letter “c” in Esperanto doesn’t make the same sound as “k”: http://www.webcom.com/~donh/ecourse/ealfabet.html

I made this mistake when I first posted this article and corrected it shortly thereafter.

By: Simon Attfield

Simon Attfield — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:09:38 +0000

I learned klavarscribo as a child (is it a ‘c’ or a ‘k’?) and am just re-discovering it and finding I can slip right back into it. I agree with you about the difficulties in interpreting the 5 bar stave representation. It seems the ‘mapping’ between klavarscribo and the keyboard seems far more direct and so requires less mental translation. Its far more usabile. Of course, by representing the keyboard it is limited to keyboard instruments (I think other versions exist for other instruments). But then music is generally written for one instrument.

I’m going to check out the software you mentioned Evan. And also keyplay mentioned by Russell. thanks

Simon

By: Terry Thorpe

Terry Thorpe — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:46:36 +0000

read your thesis with great interest and to some extent awe of your abilities wish ing you all the best with Klavar;and thanks for transcribing the phrase klavarscribo “great stuff” all the best Terry